1 00:00:04,670 --> 00:00:02,990 an artic campaign I'm George Hale here 2 00:00:06,260 --> 00:00:04,680 at NASA Goddard and as this hangout airs 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:06,270 live we'll be answering your questions 4 00:00:10,009 --> 00:00:07,770 about NASA's upcoming mission to 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:10,019 Antarctica you can ask a question in the 6 00:00:14,810 --> 00:00:12,330 YouTube comments box on this google + 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:14,820 page on the ice bridge facebook page or 8 00:00:19,130 --> 00:00:16,170 you can tweet to us using the hashtag 9 00:00:21,140 --> 00:00:19,140 ice bridge joining us for this hangout 10 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:21,150 from NASA's Wallops Flight Facility on 11 00:00:24,790 --> 00:00:22,710 the Eastern Shore of Virginia is ice 12 00:00:27,350 --> 00:00:24,800 bridge project manager Christie Hanson 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:27,360 also at Wallops in the airplane hangar 14 00:00:31,190 --> 00:00:28,890 in front of our p3 airborne laboratory 15 00:00:33,919 --> 00:00:31,200 is project scientist Michael stew nagar 16 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:33,929 and coming to us from denver colorado is 17 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:36,089 chad nuttin he is a science project 18 00:00:40,849 --> 00:00:38,239 manager for the u.s. Antarctic Program 19 00:00:42,889 --> 00:00:40,859 will go straight to questions and the 20 00:00:47,790 --> 00:00:42,899 first one is for Michael Michael what 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:50,529 operation IceBridge is a NASA airborne 22 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:54,530 campaign that has been started in 2009 23 00:01:00,180 --> 00:00:57,530 to continue the laser altimetry 24 00:01:03,609 --> 00:01:00,190 measurements that have begun with eiza 25 00:01:06,460 --> 00:01:03,619 which ended in 2009 collecting data and 26 00:01:11,410 --> 00:01:06,470 the follow-up mission i sub 2 is 27 00:01:15,010 --> 00:01:11,420 currently scheduled for 2016 and between 28 00:01:18,279 --> 00:01:15,020 2009 2016 that's a very long depth in 29 00:01:22,109 --> 00:01:18,289 data acquisition so nASA has decided to 30 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:22,119 bridge the step gap in data collection 31 00:01:28,899 --> 00:01:26,750 by using a instrumented aircraft and you 32 00:01:32,949 --> 00:01:28,909 can see one here in the back behind me 33 00:01:36,460 --> 00:01:32,959 this is the p3 aircraft to continue on 34 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:36,470 collecting elevation measurements over 35 00:01:41,410 --> 00:01:38,840 the polar ice sheets and the Arctic and 36 00:01:44,199 --> 00:01:41,420 Antarctic sea ice in order to build a 37 00:01:52,539 --> 00:01:44,209 very long time series how the polar 38 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:52,549 regions are changing great ok so this is 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:54,200 the first time that ice bridge has 40 00:01:58,450 --> 00:01:56,810 operated directly from Antarctica now 41 00:02:03,039 --> 00:01:58,460 Christy how is that a benefit to the 42 00:02:04,660 --> 00:02:03,049 program hi George thanks for asking the 43 00:02:06,609 --> 00:02:04,670 question we're pretty excited to be 44 00:02:08,199 --> 00:02:06,619 going to McMurdo this season it'll be 45 00:02:10,930 --> 00:02:08,209 our first ever ice bridge deployment to 46 00:02:12,910 --> 00:02:10,940 McMurdo and one of the benefits we're 47 00:02:15,430 --> 00:02:12,920 going to get from taking our p3 aircraft 48 00:02:16,870 --> 00:02:15,440 down and being based on the continent 49 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:16,880 down there is that we're going to 50 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:19,670 collect more science hours of data per 51 00:02:24,220 --> 00:02:22,070 flight time previously when we deployed 52 00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:24,230 from Punta Arenas Chile we lost a lot of 53 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:25,910 our science data collection time flying 54 00:02:29,380 --> 00:02:27,890 over the Drake Passage so we really only 55 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:29,390 had about four to five hours of science 56 00:02:34,090 --> 00:02:31,760 collection whereas theoretically McMurdo 57 00:02:35,710 --> 00:02:34,100 will fly eight our missions and we can 58 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:35,720 start collecting sign stated as soon as 59 00:02:45,340 --> 00:02:43,040 we take off and when we land okay now 60 00:02:47,199 --> 00:02:45,350 Chad you're with the u.s. outer program 61 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:47,209 and you're essentially in charge of 62 00:02:51,759 --> 00:02:49,370 logistics for this and many other 63 00:02:53,050 --> 00:02:51,769 science missions in Antarctica so what 64 00:02:55,149 --> 00:02:53,060 exactly is involved in getting 65 00:02:58,509 --> 00:02:55,159 scientists and all their equipment to 66 00:03:00,340 --> 00:02:58,519 such a remote location well thanks for 67 00:03:02,290 --> 00:03:00,350 the question yet so it 68 00:03:04,830 --> 00:03:02,300 on a program this size with an aircraft 69 00:03:06,750 --> 00:03:04,840 like this coming down to McMurdo Station 70 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:06,760 it's kind of a unique opportunity 71 00:03:11,710 --> 00:03:09,230 there's a lot of detailed planning that 72 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:11,720 needs to occur we started planning for 73 00:03:16,180 --> 00:03:14,930 this over a year ago and will be Denton 74 00:03:18,790 --> 00:03:16,190 the plane will be down for you know 75 00:03:21,310 --> 00:03:18,800 about two weeks so there's a lot of 76 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:21,320 resources limited resources in McMurdo 77 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:24,140 Station in Antarctica and we have a lot 78 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:26,210 of other groups that need to share those 79 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:29,510 resources so the biggest challenge is 80 00:03:35,350 --> 00:03:32,990 ensuring the time frame and the amount 81 00:03:38,140 --> 00:03:35,360 of people that need to be on this 82 00:03:39,490 --> 00:03:38,150 project to make it successful it's one 83 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:39,500 of the biggest challenges for any 84 00:03:49,540 --> 00:03:46,910 project coming to Antarctica and I'm 85 00:03:51,010 --> 00:03:49,550 George Hale I'm at NASA Goddard want to 86 00:03:53,020 --> 00:03:51,020 remind everybody you can ask her 87 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:53,030 questions in the youtube comments box on 88 00:03:57,820 --> 00:03:55,190 the Google+ page our Facebook page or 89 00:04:00,010 --> 00:03:57,830 tweet to us using hashtag ice bridge now 90 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:00,020 Michael can you explain to us what's 91 00:04:06,310 --> 00:04:02,890 behind you there in the hangar yeah here 92 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:06,320 directly behind me you can see the tail 93 00:04:13,060 --> 00:04:09,920 of the p3 aircraft and what's happening 94 00:04:16,450 --> 00:04:13,070 this week is the instrument teams and 95 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:16,460 the aircrew are all here and installing 96 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:19,400 actually science instruments inside the 97 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:22,610 aircraft the antennas structures on the 98 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:25,130 outside of the aircraft and pretty much 99 00:04:30,010 --> 00:04:27,290 getting the right to the plane ready to 100 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:30,020 decline to Antarctica so once we are 101 00:04:35,740 --> 00:04:32,870 done here with the installation we will 102 00:04:38,050 --> 00:04:35,750 test fly the aircraft Ian ball up some 103 00:04:41,830 --> 00:04:38,060 collect data with it make sure that 104 00:04:44,110 --> 00:04:41,840 everything works properly and calibrate 105 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:44,120 the instrument seer and before we are 106 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:47,060 going down south and then once all this 107 00:04:52,090 --> 00:04:50,180 is done we will ferry the aircraft down 108 00:04:55,020 --> 00:04:52,100 to Christchurch and from there to 109 00:04:57,490 --> 00:04:55,030 McMurdo and then we will start 110 00:05:04,450 --> 00:04:57,500 collecting data over the ice sheets in 111 00:05:07,180 --> 00:05:04,460 CI is there all right and our next 112 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:07,190 question comes from cyril @ underscore 113 00:05:12,610 --> 00:05:10,400 cy VA and this christian for scripture 114 00:05:13,999 --> 00:05:12,620 is for christy what scientists work in 115 00:05:17,329 --> 00:05:14,009 the ice bridge team and who will be 116 00:05:19,489 --> 00:05:17,339 on board during the fights that's a 117 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:19,499 really good question we have a very 118 00:05:25,249 --> 00:05:22,800 comprehensive science team we also have 119 00:05:28,309 --> 00:05:25,259 a team of instrument operators so when 120 00:05:29,929 --> 00:05:28,319 we actually deploy to the field we bring 121 00:05:31,309 --> 00:05:29,939 a lot of instrument engineers and 122 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:31,319 operators some of them are scientists 123 00:05:35,359 --> 00:05:33,930 not everybody we have Michael students 124 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:35,369 your who is our lead project scientist 125 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:37,710 so sort of in charge of making sure all 126 00:05:41,779 --> 00:05:39,210 the science gets done and helping define 127 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:41,789 our science objectives on the team that 128 00:05:47,059 --> 00:05:44,610 flies with us so we have we have we have 129 00:05:49,820 --> 00:05:47,069 students and engineers who operate radar 130 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:49,830 systems we have a team here from wops 131 00:05:53,959 --> 00:05:51,960 who operates the laser altimetry systems 132 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:53,969 we have a team from california that 133 00:05:58,579 --> 00:05:56,639 operates our digital camera systems we 134 00:06:01,579 --> 00:05:58,589 also have people from columbia 135 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:01,589 university and also usgs that operate 136 00:06:07,129 --> 00:06:04,710 and can canada operate our ribbon on our 137 00:06:09,219 --> 00:06:07,139 magnetometers so we definitely have an 138 00:06:11,570 --> 00:06:09,229 extensive comprehensive team of 139 00:06:12,709 --> 00:06:11,580 excellent engineers and scientists in 140 00:06:14,989 --> 00:06:12,719 the field who help us collect our data 141 00:06:22,159 --> 00:06:14,999 to try and ultimately meet our level one 142 00:06:24,499 --> 00:06:22,169 science requirements all right and Chad 143 00:06:26,869 --> 00:06:24,509 you've worked in Antarctica for quite a 144 00:06:30,459 --> 00:06:26,879 while a good question we have here is 145 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:30,469 how do you stay warm at the South Pole 146 00:06:37,459 --> 00:06:35,550 we have issued gear for external layers 147 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:37,469 that help you withstand the elements and 148 00:06:41,629 --> 00:06:39,539 so you bring down a combination of 149 00:06:45,350 --> 00:06:41,639 depending on where you're from what 150 00:06:47,409 --> 00:06:45,360 works for you we have people that a lot 151 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:47,419 of people that come down live in Alaska 152 00:06:50,899 --> 00:06:49,529 Minnesota across the top of the High 153 00:06:52,820 --> 00:06:50,909 Line of the United States but we also 154 00:06:55,159 --> 00:06:52,830 have people that come from Florida or 155 00:06:56,899 --> 00:06:55,169 you know southern states so we get a 156 00:06:59,480 --> 00:06:56,909 good mix and but we make sure they have 157 00:07:02,209 --> 00:06:59,490 the right gear for where they're going 158 00:07:03,860 --> 00:07:02,219 specifically we have three stations so 159 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:03,870 at each station you receive different 160 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:08,490 gear so most of it's warm it's intended 161 00:07:14,989 --> 00:07:11,610 to you know to do that and so that and 162 00:07:21,049 --> 00:07:14,999 layering is important layering is the 163 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:21,059 key layering is indeed the key chat we 164 00:07:25,759 --> 00:07:22,680 have another question this one from at 165 00:07:27,230 --> 00:07:25,769 Poly Pete wants to see if you would 166 00:07:28,370 --> 00:07:27,240 speak more about the logistics involved 167 00:07:31,060 --> 00:07:28,380 at McMurdo to 168 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:31,070 support icebridge such as air field ops 169 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:34,650 absolutely yes we have a typically we 170 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:36,300 operate anywhere from one to three 171 00:07:44,090 --> 00:07:40,380 airfields in McMurdo region one is 172 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:44,100 typically on the sea ice which can go 173 00:07:48,020 --> 00:07:46,740 out and an annual basis or it can stick 174 00:07:50,620 --> 00:07:48,030 around for a while depending on the 175 00:07:53,750 --> 00:07:50,630 environmental conditions that year 176 00:07:55,700 --> 00:07:53,760 another airfield is what's what we call 177 00:07:57,830 --> 00:07:55,710 Pegasus and it is actually on the ice 178 00:08:01,820 --> 00:07:57,840 shelf so it's hundreds of feet thick and 179 00:08:05,810 --> 00:08:01,830 that is also a wheeled aircraft airfield 180 00:08:08,270 --> 00:08:05,820 and then some seasons and in past years 181 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:08,280 we used to run a narrow field called 182 00:08:13,310 --> 00:08:09,900 Williams field and that is probably 183 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:13,320 equipped ski equipped aircraft like the 184 00:08:19,490 --> 00:08:17,340 military l c-130s each airfield has its 185 00:08:22,070 --> 00:08:19,500 own unique capabilities as well as 186 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:22,080 planning the logistics of getting them 187 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:24,960 started and operational is a huge effort 188 00:08:29,420 --> 00:08:27,810 it's a monumental effort and they've got 189 00:08:31,130 --> 00:08:29,430 a pretty good handle on it now so they 190 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:31,140 can get things going really quickly in 191 00:08:36,050 --> 00:08:33,330 the beginning of a season to support 192 00:08:38,450 --> 00:08:36,060 aircraft oftentimes in the winter you 193 00:08:40,670 --> 00:08:38,460 might have medevacs and they have to get 194 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:40,680 the airfields ready really quickly so 195 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:42,150 you're talking about organizing a lot of 196 00:08:47,990 --> 00:08:45,540 people a lot of heavy equipment to groom 197 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:48,000 the runways move snow put snow back on 198 00:08:59,780 --> 00:08:55,990 hopefully that answers the question okay 199 00:09:01,880 --> 00:08:59,790 well thanks a lot Chad the next question 200 00:09:05,330 --> 00:09:01,890 for Christy and this comes from Rachel 201 00:09:06,980 --> 00:09:05,340 at RP news junkie and Rachel wants to 202 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:06,990 know what the most exciting and 203 00:09:10,460 --> 00:09:08,370 interesting part of the mission is and 204 00:09:13,310 --> 00:09:10,470 what the public should be expecting as a 205 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:13,320 result well that's a really good 206 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:16,860 question let's see if you ask each 207 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:18,090 person on our team you might get a 208 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:19,680 different answer for that response so 209 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:22,560 i'll give my personal perspective of 210 00:09:26,780 --> 00:09:24,930 that i think um i think there's two 211 00:09:29,030 --> 00:09:26,790 exciting parts of this deployment among 212 00:09:32,510 --> 00:09:29,040 many probably the first one which will 213 00:09:34,940 --> 00:09:32,520 be a huge milestone will be watching our 214 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:34,950 p3 our NASA p3 aircraft land on the 215 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,930 runway the very first day so that'll be 216 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:39,120 a milestone in NASA history and in our 217 00:09:42,980 --> 00:09:41,970 airborne science program having play 218 00:09:45,050 --> 00:09:42,990 this mission for a year and a half 219 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:45,060 having worked with ASC in the National 220 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:46,800 Science Foundation they are National 221 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:49,980 Guard 109 just putting together all the 222 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:53,430 facts the requirements having see that 223 00:09:57,410 --> 00:09:56,160 come to fruition and that that's coming 224 00:10:00,379 --> 00:09:57,420 up here just in a couple weeks I think 225 00:10:02,269 --> 00:10:00,389 that will be very exciting because it's 226 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:02,279 establishing a milestone our first time 227 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:03,930 to start science data collection based 228 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:08,250 out of us and our dynamic program retro 229 00:10:13,069 --> 00:10:11,490 station so seeing our p3 land and that's 230 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:13,079 going to measure our starting point for 231 00:10:17,749 --> 00:10:14,910 collecting science data directly from 232 00:10:19,579 --> 00:10:17,759 the ice I think also the exciting part 233 00:10:20,929 --> 00:10:19,589 of this will be I think we're going to 234 00:10:23,329 --> 00:10:20,939 prove the technology prove the 235 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:23,339 capability and once we start getting 236 00:10:26,780 --> 00:10:24,990 into our science data collection 237 00:10:28,309 --> 00:10:26,790 ultimately in the long run we're going 238 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:28,319 to be able to collect more science data 239 00:10:32,300 --> 00:10:30,600 than on previous fall deployments when 240 00:10:33,949 --> 00:10:32,310 we were based out of chili so our 241 00:10:36,050 --> 00:10:33,959 science team and community is very 242 00:10:37,490 --> 00:10:36,060 excited about us being able to reach 243 00:10:38,809 --> 00:10:37,500 different parts of Antarctica that we 244 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:38,819 couldn't reach before when we were based 245 00:10:42,170 --> 00:10:40,740 out of puntarenas so we're hitting some 246 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:42,180 some targets that maybe we didn't hit 247 00:10:46,639 --> 00:10:44,250 before so that's exciting to our science 248 00:10:48,369 --> 00:10:46,649 team as well as well as ultimately in 249 00:10:50,119 --> 00:10:48,379 the long run again just getting more 250 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:50,129 more data because we're going to be 251 00:10:53,389 --> 00:10:51,930 based directly off the continent so 252 00:10:54,949 --> 00:10:53,399 those two I think are two of the more 253 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:54,959 exciting milestones though that we're 254 00:11:02,990 --> 00:10:56,970 going to receive see here in a couple 255 00:11:05,179 --> 00:11:03,000 weeks great thanks and once again this 256 00:11:07,490 --> 00:11:05,189 is a NASA Google+ Hangout kicking off 257 00:11:09,499 --> 00:11:07,500 the operation IceBridge 2013 and our 258 00:11:12,379 --> 00:11:09,509 campaign I'm George Hale at NASA Goddard 259 00:11:15,139 --> 00:11:12,389 and this next question we have for 260 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:15,149 project scientist Michael stew nagar we 261 00:11:19,699 --> 00:11:17,490 have a lot of people on google+ who want 262 00:11:22,579 --> 00:11:19,709 to volunteer to support a NASA mission 263 00:11:27,769 --> 00:11:22,589 in Antarctica what can we say to them is 264 00:11:31,610 --> 00:11:27,779 that possible it's gonna be a challenge 265 00:11:34,429 --> 00:11:31,620 as chad has set the resources that are 266 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:34,439 available in McMurdo are very limited 267 00:11:42,049 --> 00:11:37,170 and have to be shared between many many 268 00:11:44,689 --> 00:11:42,059 projects so we we have to we have to 269 00:11:48,860 --> 00:11:44,699 keep our group small on purpose in order 270 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:48,870 to not impose a big logistic footprint 271 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:53,970 on the community in in McMurdo so I 272 00:11:59,210 --> 00:11:55,680 think you really have to 273 00:12:02,150 --> 00:11:59,220 think keeping you are your size down 274 00:12:05,510 --> 00:12:02,160 when you go to places like McMurdo but 275 00:12:09,260 --> 00:12:05,520 we do have from other areas like in 276 00:12:11,810 --> 00:12:09,270 Greenland where people and then actually 277 00:12:14,389 --> 00:12:11,820 fly in commercially where we have 278 00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:14,399 pickell space where we for example can 279 00:12:20,870 --> 00:12:17,630 accommodate the school teachers and and 280 00:12:24,019 --> 00:12:20,880 have them join our mission and then we 281 00:12:27,199 --> 00:12:24,029 bought report back to the classroom what 282 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:27,209 they experience the kind of signs that 283 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:31,050 we do so I would say Antarctica is a bit 284 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:35,640 of a challenge in getting just them more 285 00:12:40,670 --> 00:12:38,790 than the absolute necessary instrument 286 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:40,680 teams and air prove their pool down 287 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:43,200 there but we have certainly other play 288 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:46,170 places where we where we can't 289 00:12:53,139 --> 00:12:49,410 accommodate people from the outside like 290 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,149 in kangaroos like dreaming for example 291 00:12:59,180 --> 00:12:55,680 but maybe that said there are many other 292 00:13:01,910 --> 00:12:59,190 ways to to get involved in NASA signs 293 00:13:03,170 --> 00:13:01,920 and contribute to NASA science you don't 294 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:03,180 really have to actually go into the 295 00:13:08,210 --> 00:13:05,850 field you can apply for summer 296 00:13:10,610 --> 00:13:08,220 internships and other things so there 297 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:10,620 are many different ways to get involved 298 00:13:17,900 --> 00:13:16,470 with NASA thanks Michael we actually 299 00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:17,910 have another question for you hear from 300 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:21,270 Stephanie at SPR burn and Stephanie 301 00:13:25,490 --> 00:13:23,540 wants to know what climate science 302 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:25,500 IceBridge is doing and how the 303 00:13:33,829 --> 00:13:27,450 government shutdown affected the field 304 00:13:37,699 --> 00:13:33,839 campaign and science um IceBridge per se 305 00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:37,709 is not doing climate science we are 306 00:13:46,810 --> 00:13:41,750 producing the data that is necessary to 307 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:46,820 feed into models how I see the 308 00:13:54,769 --> 00:13:50,220 potentially can evolve over long time 309 00:13:57,769 --> 00:13:54,779 scales but we we are not doing climate 310 00:14:02,780 --> 00:13:57,779 science were saved so I think the the 311 00:14:07,340 --> 00:14:02,790 data that we collect is important in for 312 00:14:09,470 --> 00:14:07,350 climate scientists to understand how ice 313 00:14:13,189 --> 00:14:09,480 sheets change over time 314 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:13,199 what is driving this change is it coming 315 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:16,980 from let's say increase or reduce snow 316 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:19,500 accumulation increase surface melting 317 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:23,160 because of warmer temperatures and I 318 00:14:31,310 --> 00:14:28,170 screeches in a unique position to to 319 00:14:34,430 --> 00:14:31,320 sort out all these kind of different 320 00:14:37,699 --> 00:14:34,440 aspects and they the results we produce 321 00:14:40,819 --> 00:14:37,709 they will feed directly into climate 322 00:14:43,579 --> 00:14:40,829 models and people who try to understand 323 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:43,589 the the whole climate system we are just 324 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:46,380 dealing with a tiny aspect from the 325 00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:48,420 finite system and those are polar ice 326 00:14:52,879 --> 00:14:51,240 sheets and sea ice if you want to 327 00:14:56,780 --> 00:14:52,889 understand the earth climate and how it 328 00:14:59,150 --> 00:14:56,790 changes you really need to look at the 329 00:15:01,699 --> 00:14:59,160 entire planet today and run global 330 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:01,709 models and that's a far more complex 331 00:15:09,379 --> 00:15:05,880 than question than what we do with ice 332 00:15:11,449 --> 00:15:09,389 which now the second part of the 333 00:15:18,139 --> 00:15:11,459 question was and how the government 334 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:18,149 shutdown impacted ice which it has put 335 00:15:25,610 --> 00:15:21,720 our preparations on old for more than 336 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:25,620 two weeks and added some other headaches 337 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:29,699 that we had to resolve but most 338 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:33,029 importantly because and its effort to 339 00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:38,370 prepare for turning the Antarctic basis 340 00:15:46,730 --> 00:15:43,440 into care take a status our field season 341 00:15:51,559 --> 00:15:46,740 has been shot if I about 75% so that 342 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:51,569 means we will collect them considerably 343 00:15:56,090 --> 00:15:53,370 less science data than we had planned 344 00:15:59,329 --> 00:15:56,100 for and let's say potentially a big 345 00:16:01,610 --> 00:15:59,339 issue because one of the reasons and has 346 00:16:04,639 --> 00:16:01,620 been said before why we go to McMurdo is 347 00:16:08,780 --> 00:16:04,649 because we can reach areas that we 348 00:16:13,879 --> 00:16:08,790 haven't been able to reach since 2009 349 00:16:16,730 --> 00:16:13,889 and for example the M the ice creams 350 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:16,740 along the cyber coast in West Antarctica 351 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:20,399 are changing them their ice surface 352 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:22,230 velocity we knows you notice from 353 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:23,370 satellite measurements 354 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:25,970 from space but we don't know how the 355 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:28,170 volume changes there the ice surface 356 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:35,000 elevation and so between 2009 and 2016 357 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:37,950 we have potentially only one data point 358 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:40,650 or maybe not even the single data point 359 00:16:48,530 --> 00:16:44,910 and I think that's a big deal to help 360 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:48,540 interpreting the data that we will 361 00:16:57,740 --> 00:16:54,570 observe with iso to in 2016 great thanks 362 00:17:00,560 --> 00:16:57,750 Michael now Chad nuttin um following up 363 00:17:01,940 --> 00:17:00,570 on the shutdown question in your job as 364 00:17:03,290 --> 00:17:01,950 a science project manager for the u.s. 365 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:03,300 Antarctic Program how has it affected 366 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:06,270 your work well we've been running 367 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:07,679 through that's a good question we've 368 00:17:12,110 --> 00:17:09,530 been running through a lot of scenarios 369 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:12,120 once October one hit and we realized 370 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:13,860 that things were going to be a little 371 00:17:19,699 --> 00:17:17,610 bit different this season essentially 372 00:17:21,590 --> 00:17:19,709 we're a pretty good team here and we 373 00:17:26,569 --> 00:17:21,600 have a lot of priorities so we have to 374 00:17:27,949 --> 00:17:26,579 work on identifying scenarios we went 375 00:17:32,180 --> 00:17:27,959 through a lot of motions the first three 376 00:17:34,910 --> 00:17:32,190 weeks of October and in the end we we 377 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:34,920 prevailed and we're all systems go for a 378 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:36,720 lot of the good science that's coming 379 00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:41,010 down and so it there's it seems like 380 00:17:45,470 --> 00:17:44,340 annually there's always I wouldn't say 381 00:17:48,110 --> 00:17:45,480 there's always something but there's 382 00:17:50,510 --> 00:17:48,120 always in it I there is always something 383 00:17:53,330 --> 00:17:50,520 that pops up that is a challenge for 384 00:17:54,740 --> 00:17:53,340 program-wide that affects affects a lot 385 00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:54,750 of the science and a lot of logistics 386 00:18:00,140 --> 00:17:57,660 and so this you know in my perspective 387 00:18:02,810 --> 00:18:00,150 was this was a big one but I think we 388 00:18:05,510 --> 00:18:02,820 got through it and I think you know a 389 00:18:07,540 --> 00:18:05,520 lot of the science that then SF funds on 390 00:18:09,860 --> 00:18:07,550 an annual basis is going to continue 391 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:09,870 there's a lot of groups that come down 392 00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:11,850 like the LTR that have been coming down 393 00:18:17,030 --> 00:18:14,670 for a long time Noah has some operations 394 00:18:19,730 --> 00:18:17,040 at South Pole measuring co2 395 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:19,740 concentrations that they are no longer 396 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:21,090 going to have a skip year and their data 397 00:18:25,490 --> 00:18:23,910 so there's a lot of priorities out there 398 00:18:28,190 --> 00:18:25,500 and we're able to support a lot of that 399 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:28,200 so we went through some gyrations and we 400 00:18:32,330 --> 00:18:30,510 figured it all out and what we're going 401 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:32,340 to do some groups got deferred and a lot 402 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:34,590 of them like Michael mentioned maybe a 403 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,690 little bit of reduce scope 404 00:18:41,090 --> 00:18:39,600 it's unfortunate but it's the climate 405 00:18:43,310 --> 00:18:41,100 we're in and we'll just continue plowing 406 00:18:49,100 --> 00:18:43,320 forward and supporting the science then 407 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:49,110 SF funds great thanks and we have a 408 00:18:54,010 --> 00:18:51,360 question for ice bridge project manager 409 00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:54,020 Christie Hanson from youtube user 410 00:19:00,890 --> 00:18:57,180 gandalf extreme wants to know how much a 411 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:00,900 mission like ice bridge costs well 412 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:03,930 that's a tricky question um depends on 413 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,050 what you what you uh you count in the 414 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:09,840 cost right do you count people's labor 415 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:12,900 so all the time that is put in on any 416 00:19:16,220 --> 00:19:14,190 given workday like how much of my time 417 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:16,230 if I spent on the group planning so that 418 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:18,240 could factor in that could factor into 419 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:20,850 the costs um then you actually have 420 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:23,610 hardware and cargo so tangible things 421 00:19:29,660 --> 00:19:26,700 like I need to ship 55,000 pounds of 422 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:29,670 cargo from the United States down to 423 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:31,200 McMurdo so there's a cost associated 424 00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:34,170 with that does it cost associated with 425 00:19:40,220 --> 00:19:37,080 getting all of our bodies are our team 426 00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:40,230 flying down to McMurdo does it cost with 427 00:19:45,260 --> 00:19:43,380 that we also have technology upgrades 428 00:19:47,690 --> 00:19:45,270 that can factor into the cost so we had 429 00:19:49,580 --> 00:19:47,700 some new upgrades that went with the 430 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:49,590 people that actually were implemented on 431 00:19:55,750 --> 00:19:52,980 to the t3 that that's a cost so without 432 00:19:58,460 --> 00:19:55,760 giving you a exact quote it could be 433 00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:58,470 anywhere from a couple hundred thousand 434 00:20:04,430 --> 00:20:01,760 dollars to maybe a little over a million 435 00:20:06,590 --> 00:20:04,440 so that's kind of a range that you could 436 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:06,600 think of when when looking at a mission 437 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:08,880 equivalent to ours getting ready to go 438 00:20:17,180 --> 00:20:11,970 to McMurdo um I hope that answers your 439 00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:17,190 question it was great thanks and we have 440 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:19,140 another question from YouTube this one 441 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:21,690 is a little more sciency so for Michael 442 00:20:26,030 --> 00:20:23,850 this from uh this one is from Thomas 443 00:20:30,170 --> 00:20:26,040 Larson and he wants to know when was an 444 00:20:35,870 --> 00:20:30,180 erotica not covered by ice that was a 445 00:20:39,770 --> 00:20:35,880 very very long time ago I think me and I 446 00:20:42,620 --> 00:20:39,780 may not have to write numbers in my my 447 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:42,630 brain active at this point it was about 448 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:45,690 35 million years ago or 38 million years 449 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:48,690 ago when the Drake Passage good between 450 00:20:53,150 --> 00:20:50,610 us South 451 00:20:56,570 --> 00:20:53,160 and the dark pika opened and the circle 452 00:20:59,090 --> 00:20:56,580 and arctic pole akong established and 453 00:21:02,380 --> 00:20:59,100 cool down Antarctica then we started 454 00:21:06,230 --> 00:21:02,390 seeing the first getting the first then 455 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:06,240 kind of alpine glaciers and that grew 456 00:21:16,580 --> 00:21:08,880 eventually into continental ice sheets 457 00:21:19,970 --> 00:21:16,590 some 30 million years ago great thanks 458 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:19,980 Michael another question for you you 459 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:22,130 said that i SAT to will launch in 460 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:25,559 believe you said 2016 what will ice 461 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:27,960 bridges role be after the satellite 462 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:33,030 launches um the the plan is to have at 463 00:21:39,710 --> 00:21:35,970 least one year overlap between I 464 00:21:42,110 --> 00:21:39,720 scription I so too this will give us one 465 00:21:44,780 --> 00:21:42,120 campaign in the Arctic and one campaign 466 00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:44,790 in the Antarctic and this is absolutely 467 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:48,630 necessary to ensure the continuity and 468 00:21:54,169 --> 00:21:50,970 the consistency of the data that we are 469 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:54,179 collected because we are flying slightly 470 00:21:58,130 --> 00:21:56,250 different instruments that measure the 471 00:22:00,350 --> 00:21:58,140 ice surface elevation in slightly 472 00:22:02,570 --> 00:22:00,360 different ways than a satellite so we 473 00:22:05,299 --> 00:22:02,580 need to make sure that the measurements 474 00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:05,309 we are doing are consistent with the 475 00:22:11,299 --> 00:22:08,370 measurements that are being done by Isah 476 00:22:14,539 --> 00:22:11,309 too and in order to determine this we 477 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:14,549 need overlap between the two 478 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:18,720 measurements beyond that there is a need 479 00:22:25,580 --> 00:22:22,260 for every satellite mission to calibrate 480 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:25,590 and validate the data that a satellite 481 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:29,090 collect and that typically requires 482 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:31,410 airborne measurements it requires 483 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:34,290 measurements taken on the ground and all 484 00:22:38,570 --> 00:22:36,510 sorts of other things an ice bridge will 485 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:38,580 certainly play a role in this 486 00:22:50,820 --> 00:22:41,970 calibration and validation phase of ice 487 00:22:57,399 --> 00:22:54,639 okay everyone I like to welcome welcome 488 00:23:00,370 --> 00:22:57,409 you to the NASA Google+ Hangout kicking 489 00:23:02,379 --> 00:23:00,380 off the operation IceBridge 2013 and 490 00:23:04,570 --> 00:23:02,389 order campaign I'm George Hale here at 491 00:23:06,430 --> 00:23:04,580 NASA Goddard and we're answering your 492 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:06,440 questions you can ask a question in the 493 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:08,630 youtube comments box on the Google+ page 494 00:23:12,549 --> 00:23:10,850 on the ice bridge facebook page or you 495 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:12,559 can tweet to us using the hashtag ice 496 00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:17,210 bridge so Michael you talked a little 497 00:23:22,659 --> 00:23:20,049 bit about measuring ice thickness and 498 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:22,669 elevation can you talk a little bit more 499 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:24,080 about some of the instruments ice 500 00:23:33,129 --> 00:23:29,929 produces yeah the main purpose is to 501 00:23:35,590 --> 00:23:33,139 measure the change in ice surface 502 00:23:40,360 --> 00:23:35,600 elevation over time from year to year 503 00:23:43,779 --> 00:23:40,370 and this allows us of course to estimate 504 00:23:47,980 --> 00:23:43,789 how much ice ice sheet is gaining or 505 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:47,990 losing which is important because we 506 00:23:52,299 --> 00:23:50,090 want to understand how much ice of this 507 00:23:55,299 --> 00:23:52,309 melting ice is contributing to sea level 508 00:23:58,060 --> 00:23:55,309 rise in the future and the way I switch 509 00:24:00,940 --> 00:23:58,070 is doing this is we fly a laser 510 00:24:03,820 --> 00:24:00,950 altimeter in the p3 aircraft that you 511 00:24:06,970 --> 00:24:03,830 can see behind here and this laser 512 00:24:09,580 --> 00:24:06,980 altimeter is kind of from sending down 513 00:24:12,610 --> 00:24:09,590 laser beams from the aircraft down to 514 00:24:16,139 --> 00:24:12,620 the ice surface and the couple of 515 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:16,149 photons get reflected back to the 516 00:24:21,789 --> 00:24:19,250 aircraft and going to a detector or 517 00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:21,799 receiver there and then you can measure 518 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:24,799 pretty much the time it takes from when 519 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:27,340 you kind of we're sending out the poles 520 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:30,590 how long it takes to get back and if you 521 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:32,570 know the speed of light in air you can 522 00:24:37,899 --> 00:24:34,880 calculate the distance between the 523 00:24:41,830 --> 00:24:37,909 aircraft and the ice surface elevation 524 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:41,840 and the the next step to figure out 525 00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:43,970 where your ice surface elevation is 526 00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:46,159 actually located in absolute reference 527 00:24:50,649 --> 00:24:48,049 frame is you need you need to determine 528 00:24:55,539 --> 00:24:50,659 exactly where your aircraft dispositions 529 00:24:59,259 --> 00:24:55,549 so we need very precise GPS trajectory 530 00:25:02,649 --> 00:24:59,269 from the aircraft which is a big 531 00:25:04,180 --> 00:25:02,659 challenge and are also kind of a a piece 532 00:25:07,550 --> 00:25:04,190 of art 533 00:25:10,340 --> 00:25:07,560 to do this and once we know precisely 534 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:10,350 where the aircraft has been flying at 535 00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:13,410 what elevation and know the range 536 00:25:18,890 --> 00:25:16,230 between the aircraft in the ice surface 537 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:18,900 from the laser altimeter measurements we 538 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:24,480 can pretty much determine the change in 539 00:25:29,690 --> 00:25:26,610 the ice surface elevation from year in 540 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:29,700 year within a few centimetres of 541 00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:36,450 position great thanks Michael and we 542 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:38,100 have another question from Stephanie 543 00:25:42,980 --> 00:25:41,010 Auburn at climate wire and she wants to 544 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:42,990 know if Michael if you could talk a 545 00:25:46,850 --> 00:25:44,970 little bit about the data and how it 546 00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:46,860 will be used by climate scientists I 547 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:49,020 know you mentioned I she models earlier 548 00:25:55,250 --> 00:25:51,320 but could you maybe elaborate on that 549 00:25:59,030 --> 00:25:55,260 yeah um so ice purchase a NASA mission 550 00:26:02,030 --> 00:25:59,040 and that means all our data are publicly 551 00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:02,040 available after six months of the data 552 00:26:08,060 --> 00:26:05,400 collection people can go to the National 553 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:08,070 snow and ice data center website and 554 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:11,850 download the data and for free and the 555 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:15,710 jobs you mentioned one of the important 556 00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:18,810 pieces of data that we collect that are 557 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:24,630 used by people who determine how or 558 00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:27,330 project how ice sheets may change over 559 00:26:35,330 --> 00:26:30,660 time our ice sheet model us and one of 560 00:26:38,330 --> 00:26:35,340 the very critical require is the 561 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:38,340 elevation of the bedrock topography 562 00:26:48,430 --> 00:26:43,710 below the ice sheets so it is critical 563 00:26:51,260 --> 00:26:48,440 to having a reliable ice sheet model 564 00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:51,270 really the the bedrock structure and 565 00:26:58,670 --> 00:26:55,380 below the ice sheet in the inner precise 566 00:27:00,530 --> 00:26:58,680 we're way and with a fairly high 567 00:27:03,950 --> 00:27:00,540 resolution because this is what's 568 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:03,960 essentially driving a lot of the dynamic 569 00:27:10,610 --> 00:27:07,310 flow of the ice from the interior to the 570 00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:10,620 to the Arctic over to the into the ocean 571 00:27:17,390 --> 00:27:12,870 where contributes to sea level rise so 572 00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:17,400 in addition to on ice surface elevation 573 00:27:23,690 --> 00:27:20,240 from laser altimetry we are collecting a 574 00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:23,700 many many different additional data sets 575 00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:27,350 that I used by ice sheet model us and 576 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:31,350 other scientists and for answering 577 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:35,130 important questions how I sheets evolved 578 00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:38,130 over time what the parameters are they 579 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,880 great thanks Michael okay we have 580 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:49,440 another question for Christy a ice 581 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:51,330 bridge during the greenland campaign 582 00:27:56,570 --> 00:27:53,970 earlier this year we had a few teachers 583 00:27:58,130 --> 00:27:56,580 aboard could you talk about what it was 584 00:28:00,620 --> 00:27:58,140 like to work with some of those teachers 585 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:00,630 during those campaign flights yeah 586 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:02,130 that's a really good question George um 587 00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:05,010 this this recent year in Greenland was 588 00:28:10,460 --> 00:28:06,960 particularly an amazing one I thought in 589 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:10,470 terms of having a education and outreach 590 00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:13,410 project in the field um way to teacher 591 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:16,590 from polar Trek actually a program from 592 00:28:20,540 --> 00:28:18,330 the National Science Foundation you know 593 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:20,550 he and George Hale obviously you were 594 00:28:23,750 --> 00:28:22,050 involved in helping pick and select his 595 00:28:27,050 --> 00:28:23,760 teachers coming in the field his name 596 00:28:28,490 --> 00:28:27,060 was marked using and to this day I was 597 00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:28,500 amazed and impressed with his 598 00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:30,660 performance in the in the field not only 599 00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:32,310 how he acted in the field but the 600 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:34,230 products that he built during real time 601 00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,690 operations that he shared directly with 602 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:38,640 his classroom and jiri so many students 603 00:28:42,650 --> 00:28:41,010 so for the public out there who doesn't 604 00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:42,660 know what that program is we bring a 605 00:28:45,860 --> 00:28:44,310 teacher in the field with us when we go 606 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:45,870 to Greenland they fly on some of the 607 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:48,240 flights they meet with each of our team 608 00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:49,770 members to learn about the instruments 609 00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:51,870 how they work a lot of it is science and 610 00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:53,910 math based and some of them will 611 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:55,260 actually create lesson plans while 612 00:28:59,240 --> 00:28:56,730 they're in the field they'll get video 613 00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:59,250 clips or they'll do math problems mark 614 00:29:03,980 --> 00:29:01,140 was really good almost every night he he 615 00:29:06,350 --> 00:29:03,990 put out a new lesson plan um so he took 616 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:06,360 everything he learned from our active 617 00:29:10,730 --> 00:29:07,830 research in the field and turned it into 618 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:10,740 a lesson plan for his students and we 619 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:12,710 were able to see the end result of that 620 00:29:16,910 --> 00:29:14,610 another thing that some of the teachers 621 00:29:18,890 --> 00:29:16,920 in the field do like mark would do video 622 00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:18,900 blog so sort of a career-focused 623 00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:21,150 teaching the kids out there today what 624 00:29:24,020 --> 00:29:22,950 kind of careers can you have you don't 625 00:29:25,790 --> 00:29:24,030 just have to be at your desk all day 626 00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:25,800 there's all these exciting careers you 627 00:29:30,890 --> 00:29:27,420 can do in math research science 628 00:29:31,549 --> 00:29:30,900 engineering more exploration based so he 629 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:31,559 kind of took the 630 00:29:36,430 --> 00:29:33,330 video clips of the flight crew of our 631 00:29:39,710 --> 00:29:36,440 scientists of me of Michael and he 632 00:29:41,749 --> 00:29:39,720 actually put those out on a video feed 633 00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:41,759 and all the students could learn about 634 00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:43,169 it and comment on the different job 635 00:29:47,749 --> 00:29:46,110 position so I felt that he really did an 636 00:29:49,369 --> 00:29:47,759 amazing amount of work and send a lot of 637 00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:49,379 really positive messages about how 638 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,240 exciting math engineering these stem 639 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:53,279 technologies could be so both Michael 640 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:54,570 and I were very pleased with his 641 00:30:02,600 --> 00:29:57,090 performance and felt that having him in 642 00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:02,610 the field was an asset oh that's great 643 00:30:06,529 --> 00:30:04,409 and it was wonderful working with mark 644 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:06,539 he had a lot of great material that he 645 00:30:10,730 --> 00:30:09,570 put together on his blog Christie we 646 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:10,740 have another question this one from 647 00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:13,830 Twitter from at poly Pete and Peter 648 00:30:17,269 --> 00:30:15,779 wants to know how many seasons ice 649 00:30:19,999 --> 00:30:17,279 bridge will work out of McMurdo weather 650 00:30:21,499 --> 00:30:20,009 it's a one-off thing or a recurring 651 00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:21,509 thing yeah that's a really good question 652 00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:24,299 so we're pretty excited that you know it 653 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:25,799 took us about a year and a half to plan 654 00:30:29,450 --> 00:30:27,210 this very first employment we're going 655 00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:29,460 to do but this will not be our only 656 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:32,460 deployment we plan to at least perform 657 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:34,049 one more deployment in the field that's 658 00:30:38,899 --> 00:30:35,850 at least one more probably more than 659 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:38,909 that the challenge is that this time 660 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:41,490 next year r p3 aircraft that we use is 661 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:43,289 going through some major maintenance 662 00:30:48,259 --> 00:30:45,210 it's going to have new wings put on it 663 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:48,269 so unfortunately next year you know for 664 00:30:52,129 --> 00:30:50,249 this season we won't be able to be based 665 00:30:54,409 --> 00:30:52,139 in McMurdo but the following year our 666 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:54,419 plans to be back down there for the 667 00:30:58,700 --> 00:30:56,730 entire season collecting data so what I 668 00:31:01,070 --> 00:30:58,710 can tell you is at least two seasons but 669 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,080 it is highly likely that we will pursue 670 00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:04,320 more than that hope that answers your 671 00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:09,389 question that was a great answer once 672 00:31:14,869 --> 00:31:11,279 again this is a NASA Google+ Hangout 673 00:31:16,999 --> 00:31:14,879 picking off the operation IceBridge 2013 674 00:31:18,409 --> 00:31:17,009 Antarctic campaign I'm George Hale at 675 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,419 NASA Goddard we're answering your 676 00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:20,220 questions you can send questions to us 677 00:31:26,330 --> 00:31:23,759 from the Google+ page youtube comments 678 00:31:28,489 --> 00:31:26,340 box the ice bridge facebook page or on 679 00:31:30,619 --> 00:31:28,499 twitter using the hashtag ice bridge I 680 00:31:33,619 --> 00:31:30,629 have another question for Michael from 681 00:31:37,399 --> 00:31:33,629 YouTube this is from Austin really also 682 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:37,409 wants to know yeah also understands that 683 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:38,610 the research is significant to 684 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:40,289 scientific modelling why should the 685 00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:47,620 very simple answer because if the 686 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:50,360 thickness of ice changes it's going to 687 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:52,910 end up at the wall s water in the ocean 688 00:31:59,740 --> 00:31:56,810 which means it will dry sea level and if 689 00:32:02,290 --> 00:31:59,750 you are in a place like here at the 690 00:32:05,050 --> 00:32:02,300 Wallops Flight Facility that's very 691 00:32:07,660 --> 00:32:05,060 close to sea level they are very 692 00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:07,670 concerned about the sum of their runways 693 00:32:14,770 --> 00:32:11,300 you just barely above sea level and if 694 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:14,780 the sea level continues to rise you will 695 00:32:21,790 --> 00:32:17,810 see more and more flooding and together 696 00:32:25,210 --> 00:32:21,800 with the big storms tropical depressions 697 00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:25,220 arrogance so you will kind of see a lot 698 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:28,640 of damage to property and economic loss 699 00:32:33,850 --> 00:32:31,130 and that's these are all not doing 700 00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:33,860 things that we want so it really what 701 00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:36,110 matters in Antarctica what happens in 702 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:38,860 Antarctica really met us at the places 703 00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:45,440 around people worldwide great thanks 704 00:32:50,380 --> 00:32:47,990 Michael we have another question from 705 00:32:52,510 --> 00:32:50,390 Twitter for Christie Cyril wants to know 706 00:32:55,810 --> 00:32:52,520 how the future for ice bridge mission to 707 00:32:58,530 --> 00:32:55,820 look I think the future is positive for 708 00:33:01,530 --> 00:32:58,540 IceBridge missions I'm pleased to say so 709 00:33:04,780 --> 00:33:01,540 we have it we have an amazing team 710 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:04,790 top-notch team who performed very well 711 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:07,970 and when I say that I mean instrument 712 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:09,410 operators in the field the flight crew 713 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:13,130 our science team our logistics teams we 714 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:14,510 deployed twice a year generally and 715 00:33:18,220 --> 00:33:15,650 actually this year it's three times a 716 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:18,230 year we collect data and then about six 717 00:33:22,570 --> 00:33:21,200 months after that our teen processes all 718 00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:22,580 their data and they get all their data 719 00:33:27,010 --> 00:33:23,960 products out and Michael talked about 720 00:33:28,990 --> 00:33:27,020 that those datasets being free and each 721 00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:29,000 year we continue to collect 8 in the 722 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:31,910 field I think our data sets are known to 723 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:34,370 more and more communities across the 724 00:33:38,020 --> 00:33:36,770 world so we're just now on this exciting 725 00:33:39,130 --> 00:33:38,030 phase where we're starting to get a lot 726 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:39,140 of feedback we're starting to seeing 727 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:42,170 more and more papers being written for 728 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:43,610 people who have used our i spritz 729 00:33:47,950 --> 00:33:46,610 datasets which is very exciting and so 730 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:47,960 right now what I can say is that we 731 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:49,490 expect that icebridge will continue 732 00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:53,690 going till at least 2017 as we see that 733 00:33:56,499 --> 00:33:55,550 the again the community is very excited 734 00:33:59,739 --> 00:33:56,509 about our data sets were due 735 00:34:03,099 --> 00:33:59,749 well as well as using a lot of our data 736 00:34:04,719 --> 00:34:03,109 sets to help with I set to Cal Val 737 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:04,729 procedures and stuff that Michael talked 738 00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:07,990 about earlier so again at least 2017 I 739 00:34:12,129 --> 00:34:10,609 feel positive there that maybe there's a 740 00:34:16,809 --> 00:34:12,139 chance it can go longer than that but 741 00:34:18,460 --> 00:34:16,819 it's hard to say that right now great 742 00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:18,470 thanks chrissy and i just want to remind 743 00:34:22,269 --> 00:34:20,359 everyone this is a nasa google+ hangout 744 00:34:25,210 --> 00:34:22,279 kicking off the operation ice bridge 745 00:34:27,009 --> 00:34:25,220 2013 Antarctic campaign and I'm George 746 00:34:29,049 --> 00:34:27,019 Hale at NASA Goddard you can ask 747 00:34:32,289 --> 00:34:29,059 questions via YouTube in the comments 748 00:34:34,029 --> 00:34:32,299 box on the Google+ page through the ice 749 00:34:36,849 --> 00:34:34,039 bridge facebook page or tweet to us 750 00:34:39,819 --> 00:34:36,859 using the hashtag ice bridge and we have 751 00:34:42,849 --> 00:34:39,829 another question from Twitter from cyril 752 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,859 again and cheryl wants to know Michael 753 00:34:51,819 --> 00:34:44,720 are their plan or their flight planned 754 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:51,829 to go over the South Pole we we have a 755 00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:55,210 plan to go close to South Pole and the 756 00:35:02,680 --> 00:34:59,680 reason for that is as I mentioned the 757 00:35:07,150 --> 00:35:02,690 calibration and validation of I stood 758 00:35:11,289 --> 00:35:07,160 and tricep too and I so too are a major 759 00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:11,299 parts of our work and twice that too has 760 00:35:19,509 --> 00:35:15,380 a inflection point where all the orbits 761 00:35:22,930 --> 00:35:19,519 come close together that is that the 88 762 00:35:27,579 --> 00:35:22,940 degrees selves and so has I said to so 763 00:35:31,390 --> 00:35:27,589 if we collect data along a circle along 764 00:35:36,370 --> 00:35:31,400 88 degrees south we can actually collect 765 00:35:38,620 --> 00:35:36,380 data overall ice-sub to and price that 766 00:35:42,190 --> 00:35:38,630 have ever been flown so this is a 767 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:42,200 tremendous data set for validation and 768 00:35:48,670 --> 00:35:46,730 calibration and we probably have to go 769 00:35:52,029 --> 00:35:48,680 we have to break this up into multiple 770 00:35:54,460 --> 00:35:52,039 flights so we will be heading on a 771 00:35:57,039 --> 00:35:54,470 transit back to McMurdo closer to South 772 00:36:00,849 --> 00:35:57,049 Pole Station and also collecting data in 773 00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:00,859 what we call the polar gap because south 774 00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:04,910 of 86 degrees in 88 degree which are the 775 00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:08,480 inflection points of a certain price at 776 00:36:13,270 --> 00:36:10,430 two we don't really have any 777 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:13,280 any reliable data about ice surface 778 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:19,970 elevation or anything thank you Michael 779 00:36:26,109 --> 00:36:23,260 our next question comes from Google+ 780 00:36:28,349 --> 00:36:26,119 Christie giorno wants to know if NASA 781 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:28,359 will allow the plane to be tracked by 782 00:36:34,089 --> 00:36:31,609 flightradar24 dot-com this will be a 783 00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,099 great for aircraft spotters as well as 784 00:36:38,650 --> 00:36:36,800 anyone interested in science yeah so 785 00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:38,660 that's a good question we definitely are 786 00:36:41,890 --> 00:36:40,400 advocates of sharing our flight lines 787 00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:41,900 and with the community so people can 788 00:36:46,359 --> 00:36:44,180 follow us along in real time I'm not 789 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:46,369 familiar with that website you gave but 790 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:48,650 what I can tell you is that our airborne 791 00:36:54,190 --> 00:36:51,050 science program the airborne science 792 00:36:56,170 --> 00:36:54,200 program website for NASA has a flight 793 00:36:57,490 --> 00:36:56,180 has its own flight tracker so when we 794 00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:57,500 take off and land we turn on our flight 795 00:37:01,180 --> 00:36:59,359 tracker and we can show where we're 796 00:37:03,460 --> 00:37:01,190 flying on the airborne science programs 797 00:37:05,589 --> 00:37:03,470 website so you can google that look that 798 00:37:08,309 --> 00:37:05,599 up and you can follow us at least using 799 00:37:11,260 --> 00:37:08,319 that bat program to see where we go 800 00:37:12,819 --> 00:37:11,270 another kind of exciting thing we do for 801 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:12,829 education and outreach kind of in 802 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:14,630 addition to showing where we're flying 803 00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,119 what flight lines we do is we will post 804 00:37:21,059 --> 00:37:19,280 to our Facebook page where we're going 805 00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:21,069 each day and we'll try and actually post 806 00:37:24,730 --> 00:37:23,030 photos that we've taken during the 807 00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:24,740 mission anything that comes up we can 808 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:26,240 share that with the community you can 809 00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:27,470 check that out at the operation 810 00:37:33,370 --> 00:37:31,190 IceBridge Facebook page as well as a we 811 00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:33,380 can do real time chatting while we're 812 00:37:37,660 --> 00:37:35,359 flying it's a pretty basic limited 813 00:37:39,339 --> 00:37:37,670 capability but we can share text with 814 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:39,349 classrooms on the ground who want to get 815 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:41,450 involved in follow us along while we're 816 00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:42,770 flying to figure out what we're doing 817 00:37:47,470 --> 00:37:45,280 why are we going where we are 818 00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:47,480 interpersonal questions as well to like 819 00:37:51,190 --> 00:37:48,740 what does it feel like how high are you 820 00:37:52,990 --> 00:37:51,200 what do you eat so we do try to share 821 00:37:55,180 --> 00:37:53,000 the whole experience with with students 822 00:37:56,289 --> 00:37:55,190 on the ground when we're flying and you 823 00:37:57,940 --> 00:37:56,299 could actually talk to George Hale in 824 00:37:59,950 --> 00:37:57,950 the future about that if you wanted a 825 00:38:01,420 --> 00:37:59,960 classroom to get involved to kind of see 826 00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:01,430 where we're flying in real time and then 827 00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:04,160 having a classroom communicate with us 828 00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:06,260 while we're flying I hope that answers 829 00:38:12,789 --> 00:38:10,190 your question that's a great answer okay 830 00:38:14,530 --> 00:38:12,799 and uh Chad following up on something 831 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,540 that Christy said earlier she said that 832 00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,119 it was a year and a half planning this 833 00:38:21,849 --> 00:38:20,240 mission could you maybe let us know in 834 00:38:23,770 --> 00:38:21,859 your work with the u.s. analytic program 835 00:38:26,110 --> 00:38:23,780 how that fits in with 836 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:26,120 others is at less time or more time than 837 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:30,290 other projects take right so the NSF 838 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:33,770 funds projects they the annual 839 00:38:39,730 --> 00:38:37,370 submission for grants at NSF the 840 00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:39,740 solicitation opens up i think around May 841 00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:42,470 or June so that's when proposals come in 842 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:46,880 in this round with NASA they didn't 843 00:38:50,590 --> 00:38:48,770 submit a proposal so what we do is we 844 00:38:53,170 --> 00:38:50,600 incorporated them into our normal round 845 00:38:54,970 --> 00:38:53,180 of all the other proposals and fit them 846 00:38:56,470 --> 00:38:54,980 in you know in the year that they want 847 00:38:59,470 --> 00:38:56,480 to go so we start looking at all 848 00:39:04,270 --> 00:38:59,480 projects a minimum of a year in advance 849 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:04,280 on so if a project gets funded or you 850 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:06,530 know submitted in June it actually won't 851 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:08,210 get fun until the following about 852 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:11,570 februari timeframe is about average then 853 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:13,130 they'll plan to go down to Antarctica 854 00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:16,390 that following year so most projects 855 00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:19,460 require a year to a year and a half of 856 00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:22,250 planning now the question specifically 857 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:24,350 is how IceBridge fits into that ice 858 00:39:28,780 --> 00:39:26,090 bridge is a complicated project with a 859 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:28,790 lot of resources so it takes a little 860 00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:31,730 bit longer because now so was so 861 00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:33,260 organized and because they've done their 862 00:39:38,050 --> 00:39:34,940 deployments to before to Greenland and 863 00:39:40,110 --> 00:39:38,060 on the peninsula side of Antarctica they 864 00:39:43,660 --> 00:39:40,120 came well prepared and they knew exactly 865 00:39:45,310 --> 00:39:43,670 their requirements and capabilities so 866 00:39:47,380 --> 00:39:45,320 Christy and I have spent the last year 867 00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,390 and a half figuring out how that how 868 00:39:52,330 --> 00:39:49,520 that fits into our little shoebox of 869 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:52,340 resources how does that fit in the other 870 00:39:59,410 --> 00:39:56,330 projects some projects are quite simple 871 00:40:01,420 --> 00:39:59,420 in a sense that they don't require a 872 00:40:03,340 --> 00:40:01,430 full year of planning other projects we 873 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:03,350 might plan for three to five years 874 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:06,070 before they even deploy maybe there's a 875 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:08,570 technological advances that need to be 876 00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:10,610 made maybe there's testing that needs to 877 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:12,590 happen in similar regions may be in 878 00:40:16,510 --> 00:40:14,630 Canada there's all sorts there there's a 879 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:16,520 wide variety ice bridges somewhere right 880 00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:18,320 in the middle you know it's very 881 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:21,440 complicated very complex but again 882 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:23,930 because NASA was so organized that 883 00:40:28,780 --> 00:40:26,570 that's really helpful to know exactly 884 00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:28,790 what you need and I hope that answers 885 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:31,880 the question that's great thanks chat 886 00:40:37,350 --> 00:40:34,490 and going back NSF stands for National 887 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:37,360 Science Foundation our next 888 00:40:42,180 --> 00:40:39,490 comes from YouTube and this will be for 889 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:42,190 Michael this user wants to know who had 890 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:46,870 the original idea for ice bridge um I 891 00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:49,150 don't think there was a single person 892 00:40:56,010 --> 00:40:52,030 behind this and it actually predates my 893 00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:56,020 involvement in I spectrum there was a 894 00:41:02,670 --> 00:40:59,260 team of scientists in the price where 895 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:02,680 community and within NASA living project 896 00:41:09,780 --> 00:41:05,850 managers at NASA headquarters that 897 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:09,790 realized that the end of I said one was 898 00:41:16,010 --> 00:41:12,310 coming in 2009 and they were sitting 899 00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:16,020 down and looking into possibilities of 900 00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:18,340 continuing the the measurements that 901 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:21,670 have been begun by I said one and so 902 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:24,250 people are looking into various 903 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:27,280 different kinds of airborne campaigns or 904 00:41:33,810 --> 00:41:30,130 mini satellites that could be launched 905 00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:33,820 on a small budget to collect them the 906 00:41:40,050 --> 00:41:36,640 data the kind of data sets that I sector 907 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:40,060 was collecting and after several studies 908 00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:43,450 and a lot of work in teams and 909 00:41:50,430 --> 00:41:46,710 communities NASA made the decision to 910 00:41:55,230 --> 00:41:50,440 launch a airborne science project called 911 00:41:58,110 --> 00:41:55,240 I switch in 2009 to continue acquisition 912 00:42:00,930 --> 00:41:58,120 of data until I said to really launch in 913 00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:00,940 2016 and that's exactly what we are 914 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:06,400 doing great thanks Michael we have 915 00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:09,130 another question from Twitter from de 916 00:42:14,190 --> 00:42:11,440 Mara Mara wants to know if we collect 917 00:42:15,660 --> 00:42:14,200 audio data from Aurora and space weather 918 00:42:17,970 --> 00:42:15,670 and I know that IceBridge doesn't 919 00:42:19,740 --> 00:42:17,980 collect data like that but Chad maybe 920 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:19,750 you can give us a sense of all the 921 00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:21,010 different sorts of scientific 922 00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:25,390 experiments going on in Antarctica sure 923 00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:28,720 specifically a rana me and astrophysics 924 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:30,310 were popular at South Pole because the 925 00:42:35,010 --> 00:42:32,650 atmosphere is clear and it's not a lot 926 00:42:37,530 --> 00:42:35,020 of light pollution so there are a lot of 927 00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:37,540 instruments at South Pole to monitor the 928 00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:40,720 mesosphere as well as deep space as well 929 00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:43,150 as the you know neutrino array that was 930 00:42:48,510 --> 00:42:45,550 called ice cube that was built over the 931 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:48,520 last decade simultaneously with the new 932 00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,410 south pole station 933 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:52,000 there's a wide variety of science 934 00:42:58,289 --> 00:42:53,970 projects that occur on the comment 935 00:43:00,720 --> 00:42:58,299 biology glaciology again astrophysics in 936 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:00,730 tirana me and then you have people 937 00:43:06,059 --> 00:43:03,430 studying paleontology to there's a lot 938 00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:06,069 of fossils in Antarctica that are buried 939 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:07,900 in snow and on these mountaintops you've 940 00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:09,490 seen some of the graphics going down on 941 00:43:12,690 --> 00:43:11,140 the screen there you can see those 942 00:43:14,849 --> 00:43:12,700 little brown mountaintops some of the 943 00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:14,859 you know the content is exposed and 944 00:43:18,539 --> 00:43:16,780 where it's exposed is very valuable to a 945 00:43:22,410 --> 00:43:18,549 lot of scientists to gain invaluable 946 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:22,420 data sets on anything from like what 947 00:43:26,609 --> 00:43:23,770 Michael was talking about earlier about 948 00:43:30,270 --> 00:43:26,619 38 million years ago and we've got ice 949 00:43:32,490 --> 00:43:30,280 cores out in the the higher depths of 950 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:32,500 the ice on the continent we're drilling 951 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:34,210 down getting cores looking back at the 952 00:43:38,279 --> 00:43:36,010 atmosphere for two hundred two hundred 953 00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:38,289 six hundred thousand years ago to get an 954 00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:39,730 understanding what the continent was 955 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:41,950 like then there there's a wide variety 956 00:43:46,559 --> 00:43:44,470 we have divers looking you know that are 957 00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:46,569 going down and collecting organisms for 958 00:43:52,289 --> 00:43:49,750 scientists there's a lot of Sealand 959 00:43:54,839 --> 00:43:52,299 penguin study groups locally around the 960 00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:54,849 coast all over the coast of antarctica 961 00:44:01,549 --> 00:43:57,730 by all different types of antarctic 962 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:01,559 international antarctic programs so 963 00:44:06,510 --> 00:44:03,730 there's a there's there's a lot of 964 00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:06,520 science going on down there and it's 965 00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:08,740 it's it's good to be a part of it 966 00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:11,440 actually actually love this stuff so 967 00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:21,000 that's great thanks Chad so Cyril on 968 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:23,049 Twitter wants to know Michael you can 969 00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:25,210 help with this question how exactly does 970 00:44:33,779 --> 00:44:31,510 I set help in our mission um I think 971 00:44:36,510 --> 00:44:33,789 it's probably more the other way around 972 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:36,520 that ice which is helping I sudden I 973 00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:44,710 said to but in order to answer the 974 00:44:49,859 --> 00:44:47,230 designs questions that we are interested 975 00:44:51,930 --> 00:44:49,869 in how ice sheets are changing all the 976 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:51,940 time meaning all sorts of different 977 00:44:56,130 --> 00:44:53,950 kinds of measurements and I SAT is 978 00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:56,140 contributing to this I said to will be 979 00:45:04,250 --> 00:44:59,170 contributing to this and also and sodas 980 00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:04,260 iceberg so what we do in addition to 981 00:45:10,589 --> 00:45:07,660 black king ice surface elevation data we 982 00:45:14,220 --> 00:45:10,599 also collect ice thickness data it's no 983 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:14,230 thickness data over sea ice skin 984 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:16,800 temperature data all sorts of 985 00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:21,250 measurements and they all will help to 986 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:23,560 better interpret the signal that we will 987 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:27,010 see in I sucked and I suck too so I 988 00:45:34,770 --> 00:45:30,880 think it's it's just them ice which is 989 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:34,780 one part of a big puzzle that makes a 990 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,530 contribution in a specific field that 991 00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:40,960 helps a worldwide community of 992 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:44,079 scientists them answering bigger 993 00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:48,970 questions about how how will the climate 994 00:45:59,630 --> 00:45:53,920 change change the behavior of ice sheets 995 00:46:02,579 --> 00:45:59,640 and change the world thank you Michael 996 00:46:05,329 --> 00:46:02,589 another question for kristy from Peter 997 00:46:08,490 --> 00:46:05,339 on Twitter Peter wants to know how many 998 00:46:10,740 --> 00:46:08,500 flights we have planned for the campaign 999 00:46:14,059 --> 00:46:10,750 versus how many were originally planned 1000 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:14,069 and what some of our field targets are 1001 00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,690 okay well uh that's a good question 1002 00:46:21,710 --> 00:46:19,119 multi-part question so I think our 1003 00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:21,720 current number that we have planned is 1004 00:46:27,470 --> 00:46:24,190 things about thirty seven flights this 1005 00:46:30,359 --> 00:46:27,480 year between 37 and 41 different planned 1006 00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:30,369 missions so typically what we do just to 1007 00:46:35,309 --> 00:46:32,710 maintain flexibility in the field is we 1008 00:46:37,740 --> 00:46:35,319 we plan a lot more missions than we ever 1009 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:37,750 intend to fly so we plan landice 1010 00:46:43,650 --> 00:46:41,050 missions sea ice missions depending on 1011 00:46:45,150 --> 00:46:43,660 what what science we're looking at and 1012 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:45,160 usually what we do is to help us with 1013 00:46:48,030 --> 00:46:46,510 planning the field is would take all 1014 00:46:49,710 --> 00:46:48,040 those missions and we prioritize them 1015 00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:49,720 you know these are the top priority 1016 00:46:54,150 --> 00:46:51,609 these are medium these are low so we 1017 00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:54,160 have a nice big book that we can go to 1018 00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:55,540 the weather office with in the morning 1019 00:46:59,490 --> 00:46:57,310 and then we take a look and we think 1020 00:47:01,890 --> 00:46:59,500 okay how's the how's the weather in this 1021 00:47:04,290 --> 00:47:01,900 region versus that region if the weather 1022 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:04,300 looks bad on the east side maybe we'll 1023 00:47:08,490 --> 00:47:05,710 fly on the west side so we'll pull out 1024 00:47:09,809 --> 00:47:08,500 missions that reflect targets on the 1025 00:47:11,130 --> 00:47:09,819 west side of the continent for example 1026 00:47:12,809 --> 00:47:11,140 and then we'll look for our priorities 1027 00:47:15,450 --> 00:47:12,819 and always try and fly our top 1028 00:47:17,130 --> 00:47:15,460 priorities when the government shutdown 1029 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:17,140 we didn't actually change 1030 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:18,910 or remove any of our flights we still 1031 00:47:21,779 --> 00:47:20,200 have the same number of flight 1032 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:21,789 Opportunities or flight plans that we 1033 00:47:26,609 --> 00:47:24,880 can fly it just did actually reduce the 1034 00:47:29,339 --> 00:47:26,619 number of days that we could fly in the 1035 00:47:31,259 --> 00:47:29,349 field so so are what we call potential 1036 00:47:33,329 --> 00:47:31,269 science flight numbers have gone down a 1037 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:33,339 little bit but we're still going to work 1038 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:35,410 through the list that we've already come 1039 00:47:40,859 --> 00:47:36,760 up with and try and get as many as we 1040 00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,869 can off the ground so you know reasons 1041 00:47:44,940 --> 00:47:42,160 that we look at I talked a little bit of 1042 00:47:46,829 --> 00:47:44,950 the high-level sea ice so we'll be 1043 00:47:49,529 --> 00:47:46,839 looking at the Rossi targets over the 1044 00:47:52,759 --> 00:47:49,539 Rossi on the ross ice shelf we have some 1045 00:47:56,460 --> 00:47:52,769 stuff in the transit our mountain range 1046 00:47:58,319 --> 00:47:56,470 we have a targets uh so the differences 1047 00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,329 I guess with puntarenas is we can't 1048 00:48:02,759 --> 00:48:00,180 reach on the targets that we did before 1049 00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:02,769 because we're working out you know some 1050 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:03,849 of our new characteristics and 1051 00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:05,650 capabilities with the p3 aircraft and 1052 00:48:10,349 --> 00:48:07,420 you know looking at our times with how 1053 00:48:11,490 --> 00:48:10,359 far we can get from McMurdo how far we 1054 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:11,500 can get with the range of the plane and 1055 00:48:15,930 --> 00:48:13,569 come back so things like pine island 1056 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:15,940 glacier that we would have gotten using 1057 00:48:18,990 --> 00:48:17,650 the dc-8 deployment we don't we won't 1058 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:19,000 necessarily get on this deployment so 1059 00:48:22,349 --> 00:48:20,170 some of the targets has changed a little 1060 00:48:28,499 --> 00:48:22,359 bit but um we're still excited about 1061 00:48:30,269 --> 00:48:28,509 reaching some of the new regions I hope 1062 00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:30,279 that answers your question thanks for 1063 00:48:35,339 --> 00:48:32,589 see that was a good answer we have a 1064 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:35,349 another question here from google plus 1065 00:48:40,380 --> 00:48:37,930 and for Michael we see the p3 there 1066 00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:40,390 behind you and the question is why NASA 1067 00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:42,430 that shows an old crop aircraft instead 1068 00:48:51,390 --> 00:48:47,680 of a new claim um I think the p free has 1069 00:48:52,799 --> 00:48:51,400 been flying off kind of collecting and 1070 00:48:57,660 --> 00:48:52,809 flying these kind of missions for NASA 1071 00:49:00,180 --> 00:48:57,670 for more than two decades and I 1072 00:49:03,329 --> 00:49:00,190 screeches not be on the mission that is 1073 00:49:05,999 --> 00:49:03,339 using the p3 aircraft and in fact it's 1074 00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:06,009 um there's a high demand on having a 1075 00:49:12,839 --> 00:49:10,150 capability like a p3 for doing 1076 00:49:18,089 --> 00:49:12,849 atmospheric sciences all sorts of 1077 00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:18,099 experiments so it has a great the load 1078 00:49:24,029 --> 00:49:20,950 carrying capability it has a lot of 1079 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:24,039 space in interior and it has a lot of 1080 00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:26,410 range and that makes it an ideal 1081 00:49:30,540 --> 00:49:29,430 aircraft to fly in places like Greenland 1082 00:49:33,830 --> 00:49:30,550 there 1083 00:49:36,810 --> 00:49:33,840 no over the surface of the ice 1084 00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:36,820 specifically at 1,500 feet above the ice 1085 00:49:44,850 --> 00:49:41,110 sheet so it's it's a pretty uniquely 1086 00:49:47,940 --> 00:49:44,860 it's uniquely suited for the type of 1087 00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:47,950 work that we are doing i scratch in 1088 00:49:55,410 --> 00:49:50,740 Greenland and also as well in Antarctica 1089 00:49:59,160 --> 00:49:55,420 and but beyond that it is also a great 1090 00:50:02,300 --> 00:49:59,170 capability to have for Avon chemistry 1091 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:02,310 and all sorts of airborne science so 1092 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:04,930 it's it's an airplane that has been 1093 00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:07,810 around for for more than 20 years at 1094 00:50:14,310 --> 00:50:10,420 NASA and before this it was used by the 1095 00:50:17,580 --> 00:50:14,320 Navy and the the decision has just been 1096 00:50:20,790 --> 00:50:17,590 made that this is worth keeping and the 1097 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:20,800 Christie has mentioned replacing the 1098 00:50:24,870 --> 00:50:22,840 wings neck next year putting new wings 1099 00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:24,880 on the aircraft so that we can keep the 1100 00:50:35,010 --> 00:50:32,850 great thank you Michael and a follow-up 1101 00:50:37,410 --> 00:50:35,020 question on that one from Stephanie 1102 00:50:39,690 --> 00:50:37,420 ogburn at climate wire and I think 1103 00:50:42,090 --> 00:50:39,700 Christie you can handle this one when is 1104 00:50:43,950 --> 00:50:42,100 the p3 arriving in Antartica when does 1105 00:50:48,420 --> 00:50:43,960 it start collecting data and when does 1106 00:50:50,070 --> 00:50:48,430 that end yeah all good questions putting 1107 00:50:51,780 --> 00:50:50,080 the count under together was always an 1108 00:50:54,210 --> 00:50:51,790 exciting task to do with the changing 1109 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:54,220 schedules trying to coordinate with you 1110 00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,930 know when we can get down to McMurdo 1111 00:50:59,340 --> 00:50:57,520 based on when the sea ice runway would 1112 00:51:01,080 --> 00:50:59,350 be ready for us and when does the sea 1113 00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:01,090 ice runway clothes no because that's 1114 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:03,310 whether an environmental permitting how 1115 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:05,290 long that room I can say open so we 1116 00:51:09,240 --> 00:51:06,970 definitely have to work in inside a set 1117 00:51:11,220 --> 00:51:09,250 of unique challenges that help us 1118 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:11,230 outline our deployment length and time 1119 00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:15,310 frame so right now the p3 is scheduled 1120 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:17,500 to leave Wallops on November 11th and 1121 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:21,130 arrive in McMurdo on November 16 there's 1122 00:51:25,470 --> 00:51:22,570 a plane flying by overhead right now you 1123 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:25,480 right here so um November 16th is when 1124 00:51:30,570 --> 00:51:28,150 it should arrive in McMurdo the 1125 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:30,580 following day the 17th is what we call a 1126 00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:32,770 hard day a hard down day and assess 1127 00:51:37,860 --> 00:51:35,230 dictates the hard down day in McMurdo 1128 00:51:40,020 --> 00:51:37,870 and then the following Monday which is 1129 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:40,030 the 18th we do our very first what were 1130 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:41,650 caught what we call a test flight so 1131 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:42,970 we're going to take our p3 up and 1132 00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:44,170 perform some tests 1133 00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:45,040 Jack gives because it's a different 1134 00:51:48,329 --> 00:51:46,510 environment trying to characterize 1135 00:51:49,559 --> 00:51:48,339 understanding the weather I'm get 1136 00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:49,569 familiar with the environment around us 1137 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:51,220 and some of the flying so our flight 1138 00:51:55,950 --> 00:51:52,990 crew will do that check some things out 1139 00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:55,960 and that'll be the 18th and then the 1140 00:52:01,980 --> 00:51:58,720 19th is when we start our first science 1141 00:52:02,819 --> 00:52:01,990 flight so the 19th is one will we'll get 1142 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:02,829 into our first chance to actually 1143 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:09,490 collect hardcore science data great 1144 00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,010 thanks Kristi I I've been told we have a 1145 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:13,839 lot of questions people coming in and 1146 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:16,450 asking about the movie the thing and I 1147 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:18,010 have to say that with ice bridge one of 1148 00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,380 our favorite movies is airplane we like 1149 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:22,480 to quote that one a lot we have just a 1150 00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:24,250 few minutes left so is there anything 1151 00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:41,760 oh not from my end alright Donna go 1152 00:52:49,290 --> 00:52:47,260 nagai not gonna get anger oh great Chad 1153 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:49,300 other than ice bridge what missions are 1154 00:52:58,010 --> 00:52:53,890 coming up in McMurdo as far as science 1155 00:53:00,839 --> 00:52:58,020 groups deploying you know there are 1156 00:53:03,060 --> 00:53:00,849 there are some concerted efforts from 1157 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:03,070 Croesus the center remote sensing 1158 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:05,410 University of Kansas they're coming down 1159 00:53:08,730 --> 00:53:07,450 they they had a skip year last year they 1160 00:53:11,550 --> 00:53:08,740 come down about every other year and 1161 00:53:14,329 --> 00:53:11,560 they're flying some a u-visa round as 1162 00:53:19,650 --> 00:53:14,339 well gathering a lot of snow nice data 1163 00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:19,660 the wizard group which was last year I 1164 00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:21,760 don't know if anyone remembers but they 1165 00:53:27,510 --> 00:53:25,119 drilled down through Lake Whillans into 1166 00:53:31,319 --> 00:53:27,520 Lake will ensue about a thousand meters 1167 00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:31,329 of ice and recovered some organisms and 1168 00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:32,680 they've taken those back to the labs and 1169 00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:35,430 I think it you can go look at Wizards a 1170 00:53:39,690 --> 00:53:37,630 webpage and they have some of their in 1171 00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:39,700 exciting science going on there they're 1172 00:53:43,859 --> 00:53:41,200 coming back they've been reduced in 1173 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:43,869 scope a little bit but they're still 1174 00:53:47,970 --> 00:53:45,730 meeting some of their priorities and 1175 00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,980 objectives those are those are the two 1176 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:50,800 big deep field efforts that are going on 1177 00:53:54,990 --> 00:53:53,290 and then there's lots of science groups 1178 00:53:56,670 --> 00:53:55,000 that come to McMurdo and come to South 1179 00:53:58,559 --> 00:53:56,680 Pole and come to Palmer Station on the 1180 00:54:00,660 --> 00:53:58,569 peninsula side that are doing their 1181 00:54:02,579 --> 00:54:00,670 annual science events you know a typical 1182 00:54:05,460 --> 00:54:02,589 science events is funded for about three 1183 00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:05,470 years so it'll come down and do a lot of 1184 00:54:11,849 --> 00:54:10,240 the same science it's always fun the the 1185 00:54:14,250 --> 00:54:11,859 seal groups that come through McMurdo 1186 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:14,260 they go out and you know they weigh 1187 00:54:19,170 --> 00:54:16,690 seals and they look at some of them have 1188 00:54:20,700 --> 00:54:19,180 been tagged for 20 year plus years and 1189 00:54:23,010 --> 00:54:20,710 they put cameras on their heads 1190 00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:23,020 sometimes and they can see the profile 1191 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:25,240 of their dives and what they're chasing 1192 00:54:30,329 --> 00:54:26,650 and fish so there's a lot of exciting 1193 00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:30,339 science out there if you go to wwu sap 1194 00:54:34,829 --> 00:54:32,230 and that's United States Antarctic 1195 00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:34,839 Program gov you can see some of the 1196 00:54:39,930 --> 00:54:37,270 links as well as the NSF's website at 1197 00:54:44,970 --> 00:54:39,940 NSF gov if you want to learn a lot more 1198 00:54:47,550 --> 00:54:44,980 about the science great thanks Chad 1199 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:47,560 though wrapping up here we'd like to 1200 00:54:52,470 --> 00:54:50,530 thank our panelists Christine Hansen ice 1201 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:52,480 bridge project manager Michael 1202 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:53,890 shooting your ice bridge project 1203 00:54:57,300 --> 00:54:55,810 scientist and Chad Naughton science 1204 00:54:59,580 --> 00:54:57,310 project manager for the u.s. fine Arctic 1205 00:55:01,260 --> 00:54:59,590 program we'd like to remind everybody 1206 00:55:02,910 --> 00:55:01,270 that we'd like to thank everybody for 1207 00:55:04,859 --> 00:55:02,920 participating in this hangout and remind 1208 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:04,869 you that this hangout will be archived 1209 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:06,850 on YouTube for more information about 1210 00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:11,050 ice bridge you can go to ww nico / ice